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	<title>Comments on: When Your Album Sucks - admit it</title>
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		<title>By: Jackie O'Malley</title>
		<link>http://www.pampelmoose.com/mspeaks/2008/08/when-your-album-sucks-admit-it#comment-116858</link>
		<dc:creator>Jackie O'Malley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Nov 2008 23:01:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The only time an artist will admit their album sucks is when they released to get out of a legal contract and they want to screw the label out of any profit. Of course, talking trash about the record (even if it sucks) is likely to bring litigation from the label, who generally has more legal resources (i.e., money) than the average artist. The only artist I know of to ever publicly claim a new album was Elvis Costello, who was of course correct because all his albums suck.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The only time an artist will admit their album sucks is when they released to get out of a legal contract and they want to screw the label out of any profit. Of course, talking trash about the record (even if it sucks) is likely to bring litigation from the label, who generally has more legal resources (i.e., money) than the average artist. The only artist I know of to ever publicly claim a new album was Elvis Costello, who was of course correct because all his albums suck.</p>
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		<title>By: Guy Wettstein</title>
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		<dc:creator>Guy Wettstein</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Aug 2008 18:09:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I guess I see more artists breaking the mold than ever before but a lot of listeners truly aren't interested in new and exciting. Those folks should still be served by someone. For you and me, music as art will always be sought after. But, not everyone can be an envelope pusher, nor do they need to be. There should be room for all of it, unless it's pure shit. In that case, the offenders should have their instruments taken from them. ;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I guess I see more artists breaking the mold than ever before but a lot of listeners truly aren&#8217;t interested in new and exciting. Those folks should still be served by someone. For you and me, music as art will always be sought after. But, not everyone can be an envelope pusher, nor do they need to be. There should be room for all of it, unless it&#8217;s pure shit. In that case, the offenders should have their instruments taken from them. ;-)</p>
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		<title>By: Dave Allen</title>
		<link>http://www.pampelmoose.com/mspeaks/2008/08/when-your-album-sucks-admit-it#comment-101014</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave Allen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Aug 2008 01:11:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Guy, I don't think even Chris Anderson, who coined the term Long Tail, would agree that the Tail is an excuse for folks to bang out mediocre albums. And actually now I think about it, CD Baby serves those artists well, the ones who want to store 10 CDs on CD Baby's shelves and hope that their marketing efforts drive sales. Comfort music can be amazing too BTW - Boards of Canada and Brian Eno's ambient albums fill that niche for me. But if you mean comfort music as background filler then I'm going to have to disagree. Why is it left to Radiohead to be the band that delivers music as art? It's hard to get excited about modern music these days as so few artists seem to really want to break the mould.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Guy, I don&#8217;t think even Chris Anderson, who coined the term Long Tail, would agree that the Tail is an excuse for folks to bang out mediocre albums. And actually now I think about it, CD Baby serves those artists well, the ones who want to store 10 CDs on CD Baby&#8217;s shelves and hope that their marketing efforts drive sales. Comfort music can be amazing too BTW - Boards of Canada and Brian Eno&#8217;s ambient albums fill that niche for me. But if you mean comfort music as background filler then I&#8217;m going to have to disagree. Why is it left to Radiohead to be the band that delivers music as art? It&#8217;s hard to get excited about modern music these days as so few artists seem to really want to break the mould.</p>
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		<title>By: Guy Wettstein</title>
		<link>http://www.pampelmoose.com/mspeaks/2008/08/when-your-album-sucks-admit-it#comment-100963</link>
		<dc:creator>Guy Wettstein</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Aug 2008 21:06:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So much for "The Long Tail", eh? Is there not room for comfort music? Why not just put out the album and let listeners decide? I like some of Bowie's supposed "half-assed" efforts so in this day and age, I see no reason to hold back. You can preview just about anything and everything. Don't like it? Don't buy it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So much for &#8220;The Long Tail&#8221;, eh? Is there not room for comfort music? Why not just put out the album and let listeners decide? I like some of Bowie&#8217;s supposed &#8220;half-assed&#8221; efforts so in this day and age, I see no reason to hold back. You can preview just about anything and everything. Don&#8217;t like it? Don&#8217;t buy it.</p>
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		<title>By: Joe Wallace</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joe Wallace</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Aug 2008 19:46:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Dave--We creatives forget that people are conditioned in this culture of ours to accept mediocrity. Every McDonald's burger consumed, every carbon copy cookie cutter band that sells another CD, every Hollywood film with two buddy cops and a chase scene where the guys in the airborne car going "whooooooaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa"...it's what these people have grown up with. Not that I'm telling anyone here something they don't know :-)

What we lament as half-assed is considered a major accomplishment by those who don't work directly in the field. Part of the mythos of being one of the "chosen" (read--on stage, on screen, or on the air) is the idea that we've got rare and special talents which have earned us the place we have in front of the million billions. Joss Stone? She's one of the special ones...she has a CD out. Although I am grateful that the net has diminshed this quite a bit from the way it USED to be since everybody and their dog are now using GarageBand to make albums. 

This is getting ranty...they were complaining about this in ancient Rome just as I am doing here...but they were, of course, wearing robes. We've come SO far since then. Can you imagine playing a show wearing a TOGA? Coming to the Collesium this fall: BACCUS FEST</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Dave&#8211;We creatives forget that people are conditioned in this culture of ours to accept mediocrity. Every McDonald&#8217;s burger consumed, every carbon copy cookie cutter band that sells another CD, every Hollywood film with two buddy cops and a chase scene where the guys in the airborne car going &#8220;whooooooaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa&#8221;&#8230;it&#8217;s what these people have grown up with. Not that I&#8217;m telling anyone here something they don&#8217;t know :-)</p>
<p>What we lament as half-assed is considered a major accomplishment by those who don&#8217;t work directly in the field. Part of the mythos of being one of the &#8220;chosen&#8221; (read&#8211;on stage, on screen, or on the air) is the idea that we&#8217;ve got rare and special talents which have earned us the place we have in front of the million billions. Joss Stone? She&#8217;s one of the special ones&#8230;she has a CD out. Although I am grateful that the net has diminshed this quite a bit from the way it USED to be since everybody and their dog are now using GarageBand to make albums. </p>
<p>This is getting ranty&#8230;they were complaining about this in ancient Rome just as I am doing here&#8230;but they were, of course, wearing robes. We&#8217;ve come SO far since then. Can you imagine playing a show wearing a TOGA? Coming to the Collesium this fall: BACCUS FEST</p>
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