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		<title>By: EMI Records Reinvents the Wheel &#171; Pampelmoose</title>
		<link>http://www.pampelmoose.com/mspeaks/2007/09/rick-rubin-tries-to-save-columbia-records-and-the-entire-music-biz#comment-64429</link>
		<dc:creator>EMI Records Reinvents the Wheel &#171; Pampelmoose</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Apr 2008 03:57:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] But seriously, Mr Merrill has his work cut out for him. In the article he says - &#8220;&#8221;There is academic research that shows file sharing is a good thing for artists and not necessarily bad,&#8221; said Merrill. &#8220;We should do a bunch of experiments to find out what the business model is.&#8221; [Rick Rubin talks about setting up a 'lab' here.] [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] But seriously, Mr Merrill has his work cut out for him. In the article he says - &#8220;&#8221;There is academic research that shows file sharing is a good thing for artists and not necessarily bad,&#8221; said Merrill. &#8220;We should do a bunch of experiments to find out what the business model is.&#8221; [Rick Rubin talks about setting up a 'lab' here.] [...]</p>
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		<title>By: pampelmoose Dave Allen of Gang of Four&#8217;s Music and Media Blog &#187; emi reinvents the wheel</title>
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		<dc:creator>pampelmoose Dave Allen of Gang of Four&#8217;s Music and Media Blog &#187; emi reinvents the wheel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Apr 2008 19:37:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] But seriously, Mr Merrill has his work cut out for him. In the article he says - &#8220;&#8221;There is academic research that shows file sharing is a good thing for artists and not necessarily bad,&#8221; said Merrill. &#8220;We should do a bunch of experiments to find out what the business model is.&#8221; [Rick Rubin talks about setting up a &#8216;lab&#8217; here.] [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] But seriously, Mr Merrill has his work cut out for him. In the article he says - &#8220;&#8221;There is academic research that shows file sharing is a good thing for artists and not necessarily bad,&#8221; said Merrill. &#8220;We should do a bunch of experiments to find out what the business model is.&#8221; [Rick Rubin talks about setting up a &#8216;lab&#8217; here.] [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Dave Allen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave Allen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Sep 2007 21:56:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nick I moved a copy over there for you....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nick I moved a copy over there for you&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Nick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Sep 2007 21:18:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hmm...crap..that last comment was meant for the "backlash" article...oh well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmm&#8230;crap..that last comment was meant for the &#8220;backlash&#8221; article&#8230;oh well.</p>
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		<title>By: Nick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Sep 2007 20:03:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[This might drift slightly off topic]

I'm curious as to how someone like Steve Albini or the guys over at Negativland are weighing in on this . I'm sure everyone remembers Steve's essay on "The Problem With Music": http://www.negativland.com/albini.html

The somewhat recent re-focusing on the dying Dinosaur sounds very similar to the big conversation and controversy that went on back in 1999/2000. Back then, there was a lot of false hope about change, followed by disappointment when tech companies decided to just "work" (read: "sleep") with the then "Big 5". Things these days seem much more real in terms of the 'end of the Industry' as it exists now. The transformation of the web and a new generation of somewhat "informed" web-savvy users/music lovers has really opened up the possibility for things to change.

Nevertheless, if the entire model for the industry were to change tomorrow there would be a large catalog of music up through now that would still be tied up in copyright law and held hostage by the likes of the RIAA. Maybe aim should again be taken at the good old RIAA, all of the cronies associated with them and the current state copyright law, not to mention DRM and it's co-conspirators....no, wait - that's crazy talk...

...yeah...I'll lay off the coffee for the rest of the day :)</description>
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<p>I&#8217;m curious as to how someone like Steve Albini or the guys over at Negativland are weighing in on this . I&#8217;m sure everyone remembers Steve&#8217;s essay on &#8220;The Problem With Music&#8221;: <a href="http://www.negativland.com/albini.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.negativland.com/albini.html</a></p>
<p>The somewhat recent re-focusing on the dying Dinosaur sounds very similar to the big conversation and controversy that went on back in 1999/2000. Back then, there was a lot of false hope about change, followed by disappointment when tech companies decided to just &#8220;work&#8221; (read: &#8220;sleep&#8221;) with the then &#8220;Big 5&#8243;. Things these days seem much more real in terms of the &#8216;end of the Industry&#8217; as it exists now. The transformation of the web and a new generation of somewhat &#8220;informed&#8221; web-savvy users/music lovers has really opened up the possibility for things to change.</p>
<p>Nevertheless, if the entire model for the industry were to change tomorrow there would be a large catalog of music up through now that would still be tied up in copyright law and held hostage by the likes of the RIAA. Maybe aim should again be taken at the good old RIAA, all of the cronies associated with them and the current state copyright law, not to mention DRM and it&#8217;s co-conspirators&#8230;.no, wait - that&#8217;s crazy talk&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8230;yeah&#8230;I&#8217;ll lay off the coffee for the rest of the day :)</p>
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		<title>By: pampelmoose &#187; Blog Archive &#187; rick rubin, music man, the backlash</title>
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		<dc:creator>pampelmoose &#187; Blog Archive &#187; rick rubin, music man, the backlash</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Sep 2007 00:24:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Related Posts: Rick Rubin tries to save Columbia Records, http://www.pampelmoose.com/mspeaks/?p=961&#8243;target=_new&#62;Advanced Operators [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Related Posts: Rick Rubin tries to save Columbia Records, <a href="http://www.pampelmoose.com/mspeaks/?p=961&#8243;target=_new&#038;gt;Advanced" rel="nofollow">http://www.pampelmoose.com/mspeaks/?p=961&#8243;target=_new&#038;gt;Advanced</a> Operators [...]</p>
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		<title>By: the future of music &#8212; &#8220;embrace the new technologies&#8221; &#171; PDX PIPELINE</title>
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		<dc:creator>the future of music &#8212; &#8220;embrace the new technologies&#8221; &#171; PDX PIPELINE</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Sep 2007 19:43:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] I wrote about this 18 months ago - The Broken Music Distribution System. And here&#8217;s another great article Rick Rubun tries to save Columbia Records, Rubin has some great insights in this piece - worth a read. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] I wrote about this 18 months ago - The Broken Music Distribution System. And here&#8217;s another great article Rick Rubun tries to save Columbia Records, Rubin has some great insights in this piece - worth a read. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: pampelmoose &#187; Blog Archive &#187; advanced operators and the future of music</title>
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		<dc:creator>pampelmoose &#187; Blog Archive &#187; advanced operators and the future of music</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Sep 2007 16:42:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Readers of this blog know by now my position on the collapse of the existing system; in a nutshell the recording industry brought everything upon themselves because of their reluctance to embrace the new technilogies that their customers had already embraced. Always give your customers what they want. I wrote about this 18 months ago - The Broken Music Distribution System. And here&#8217;s another great article Rick Rubun tries to save Columbia Records, Rubin has some great insights in this piece - worth a read. Moose readers what do you have to say? [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Readers of this blog know by now my position on the collapse of the existing system; in a nutshell the recording industry brought everything upon themselves because of their reluctance to embrace the new technilogies that their customers had already embraced. Always give your customers what they want. I wrote about this 18 months ago - The Broken Music Distribution System. And here&#8217;s another great article Rick Rubun tries to save Columbia Records, Rubin has some great insights in this piece - worth a read. Moose readers what do you have to say? [...]</p>
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