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	<title>Comments on: Wall-E, a parable for our eventual extinction</title>
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		<title>By: patrick</title>
		<link>http://www.pampelmoose.com/2008/07/wall-e-a-parable-for-our-eventual-extinction/comment-page-1#comment-96134</link>
		<dc:creator>patrick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jul 2008 17:29:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wall-E totally looks like the robot from &quot;Short Circuit&quot;... minus the cheesy 80&#039;s style of course</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wall-E totally looks like the robot from &#8220;Short Circuit&#8221;&#8230; minus the cheesy 80&#8217;s style of course</p>
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		<title>By: Roy Christopher</title>
		<link>http://www.pampelmoose.com/2008/07/wall-e-a-parable-for-our-eventual-extinction/comment-page-1#comment-89657</link>
		<dc:creator>Roy Christopher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jul 2008 16:56:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, &lt;a href=&quot;http://roychristopher.com/wall-e&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;here&#039;s mine&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, <a href="http://roychristopher.com/wall-e" rel="nofollow">here&#8217;s mine</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: WALL-E: Here to Save You All &#124; Roy Christopher</title>
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		<dc:creator>WALL-E: Here to Save You All &#124; Roy Christopher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jul 2008 16:49:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] will shake us off like a bad cold and continue on its path.â€ Dave Allen calls WALL-E, &#8220;a parable for our eventual extinction,&#8221; and while eschatological themes are disturbingly rampant lately (Children of Men, I Am [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] will shake us off like a bad cold and continue on its path.â€ Dave Allen calls WALL-E, &#8220;a parable for our eventual extinction,&#8221; and while eschatological themes are disturbingly rampant lately (Children of Men, I Am [...]</p>
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		<title>By: J. Wallace</title>
		<link>http://www.pampelmoose.com/2008/07/wall-e-a-parable-for-our-eventual-extinction/comment-page-1#comment-88497</link>
		<dc:creator>J. Wallace</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jul 2008 02:48:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Dave--I agree with you to a point, but I think one of our overriding problems in the post hunter/gatherer world is the obsession with EMPIRE. I think an industrialized society could exist in some kind of far-off Wellsian utopia that actually worked in harmony with nature, but human nature being what it is...

I have to give props to Vonnegut for writing our epitaph as a species: &quot;We could have fixed it, but we were too damn lazy. And cheap.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Dave&#8211;I agree with you to a point, but I think one of our overriding problems in the post hunter/gatherer world is the obsession with EMPIRE. I think an industrialized society could exist in some kind of far-off Wellsian utopia that actually worked in harmony with nature, but human nature being what it is&#8230;</p>
<p>I have to give props to Vonnegut for writing our epitaph as a species: &#8220;We could have fixed it, but we were too damn lazy. And cheap.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Roy Christopher</title>
		<link>http://www.pampelmoose.com/2008/07/wall-e-a-parable-for-our-eventual-extinction/comment-page-1#comment-88374</link>
		<dc:creator>Roy Christopher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jul 2008 18:53:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Funny, I wrote &lt;a href=&quot;http://roychristopher.com/recurring-themes-part-five-the-end-of-humanity&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;a bit about this theme recently&lt;/a&gt; as I noticed it popping up seemingly everywhere. Compared to the dynamic characters, it seems so subtle in &lt;i&gt;WALL-E&lt;/i&gt;. 

Like Gray, the late George Carlin once quipped, &quot;Humans are like a virus. Earth will shake us off like a bad cold and continue on its path.&quot; Indeed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Funny, I wrote <a href="http://roychristopher.com/recurring-themes-part-five-the-end-of-humanity" rel="nofollow">a bit about this theme recently</a> as I noticed it popping up seemingly everywhere. Compared to the dynamic characters, it seems so subtle in <i>WALL-E</i>. </p>
<p>Like Gray, the late George Carlin once quipped, &#8220;Humans are like a virus. Earth will shake us off like a bad cold and continue on its path.&#8221; Indeed.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave Allen</title>
		<link>http://www.pampelmoose.com/2008/07/wall-e-a-parable-for-our-eventual-extinction/comment-page-1#comment-87890</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave Allen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jul 2008 15:22:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It seems that advancements in technology are always harbingers of the end of something. John Gray&#039;s very fascinating book which was published in 2002 points to 3 things 1. we are already using &quot;living&quot; machines such as microbe switches in chips, 2. we ourselves are biological machines and 3. we can not &quot;save&quot; the earth, that&#039;s a conceit driven by our big brains. The Earth will do fine whether we harm it further or not. It will shake us off or at the very least we&#039;ll be sidelined as a species and the &quot;robots&quot; or conscious machines will do the work ala Wall-E. He also argues that if we had remained in hunter gatherer mode and treated the Earth as animals do we wouldn&#039;t be in this mess today.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It seems that advancements in technology are always harbingers of the end of something. John Gray&#8217;s very fascinating book which was published in 2002 points to 3 things 1. we are already using &#8220;living&#8221; machines such as microbe switches in chips, 2. we ourselves are biological machines and 3. we can not &#8220;save&#8221; the earth, that&#8217;s a conceit driven by our big brains. The Earth will do fine whether we harm it further or not. It will shake us off or at the very least we&#8217;ll be sidelined as a species and the &#8220;robots&#8221; or conscious machines will do the work ala Wall-E. He also argues that if we had remained in hunter gatherer mode and treated the Earth as animals do we wouldn&#8217;t be in this mess today.</p>
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		<title>By: laternerdz</title>
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		<dc:creator>laternerdz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jul 2008 06:53:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is a lot more mainstream media covering issues of extinction lately. I wonder if other smaller instances of civilizations ending have similar trends in their arts.

I wonder if there are any answers in the various patterns of arts, storytelling and philosophy. Hopefully all of this new attention will uncover something that will save our asses.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is a lot more mainstream media covering issues of extinction lately. I wonder if other smaller instances of civilizations ending have similar trends in their arts.</p>
<p>I wonder if there are any answers in the various patterns of arts, storytelling and philosophy. Hopefully all of this new attention will uncover something that will save our asses.</p>
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