Comments on: emi, new gang of four album, radiohead, london, media punditry http://www.pampelmoose.com/2008/01/emi-new-gang-of-four-album-radiohead-london-media-punditry music . media . web. culture Wed, 18 Jan 2012 02:16:05 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: Life Insurance blog http://www.pampelmoose.com/2008/01/emi-new-gang-of-four-album-radiohead-london-media-punditry/comment-page-1#comment-58691 Life Insurance blog Wed, 05 Mar 2008 21:45:45 +0000 http://www.pampelmoose.com/mspeaks/?p=1251#comment-58691 <strong>Learn facts about the life insurance industry...</strong> Information on the life insurance industry... Learn facts about the life insurance industry…

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]]> By: Freddie B. http://www.pampelmoose.com/2008/01/emi-new-gang-of-four-album-radiohead-london-media-punditry/comment-page-1#comment-52348 Freddie B. Fri, 18 Jan 2008 16:15:01 +0000 http://www.pampelmoose.com/mspeaks/?p=1251#comment-52348 A propos of singles, haven't Ash announced that they won't be making LPs any more, only singles? I think there's mileage in that idea... anyone remember the Wedding Present's venture in this field? It brings a bit of excitement back in the equation. As for CDs, I was interested to note that Simon Fox of HMV said today 'I think there's life in the CD yet' having reported bumper Xmas takings (only +2% rise in music sales, albeit against an industry average of -12%). I'm with you Dave (et al) on the excitement and immediacy of digital formats, not to mention the irreversible consumer and market logic behind them, I just don't want to find myself having my hand forced yet again by an industry that doesn't seem to listen to what people really want. So i couldn't agree more with Thom Yorke. I couldn't give a toss about enhanced CDs with videos or supposedly higher quality sound (they're pretty good already). Frankly it comes down to packaging, the care and attention that is put into them, the way they are marketed, ie. all the things that determine the level of emotional (and financial) investment you're prepared to make as a music fan. At present they are indeed just so many chunks of plastic, whacked out onto supermarket shelves, dished out cut-price by Amazon, HMV, Fopp etc. There's no love or thought in there. Getting the new CD by X or Y or Z just isn't an exciting experience any more. (Was it ever, really and truly?) Accept the proposition that CDs are ONLY for the real fan (who is prepared to pay more) and you come back to the kind of thing Radiohead have been doing - cheapo digital product for the masses, exlusive subscription-only high end limited edition deluxe whatever for the fans. Only of course they couldn't resist filling in the middle part with a crappy CD just to cover all bases which has made their groundbreaking record launch seem like just so much postmodern marketing. A propos of singles, haven’t Ash announced that they won’t be making LPs any more, only singles? I think there’s mileage in that idea… anyone remember the Wedding Present’s venture in this field? It brings a bit of excitement back in the equation.

As for CDs, I was interested to note that Simon Fox of HMV said today ‘I think there’s life in the CD yet’ having reported bumper Xmas takings (only +2% rise in music sales, albeit against an industry average of -12%). I’m with you Dave (et al) on the excitement and immediacy of digital formats, not to mention the irreversible consumer and market logic behind them, I just don’t want to find myself having my hand forced yet again by an industry that doesn’t seem to listen to what people really want.

So i couldn’t agree more with Thom Yorke. I couldn’t give a toss about enhanced CDs with videos or supposedly higher quality sound (they’re pretty good already). Frankly it comes down to packaging, the care and attention that is put into them, the way they are marketed, ie. all the things that determine the level of emotional (and financial) investment you’re prepared to make as a music fan. At present they are indeed just so many chunks of plastic, whacked out onto supermarket shelves, dished out cut-price by Amazon, HMV, Fopp etc. There’s no love or thought in there. Getting the new CD by X or Y or Z just isn’t an exciting experience any more. (Was it ever, really and truly?)

Accept the proposition that CDs are ONLY for the real fan (who is prepared to pay more) and you come back to the kind of thing Radiohead have been doing – cheapo digital product for the masses, exlusive subscription-only high end limited edition deluxe whatever for the fans. Only of course they couldn’t resist filling in the middle part with a crappy CD just to cover all bases which has made their groundbreaking record launch seem like just so much postmodern marketing.

]]> By: Joe Wallace http://www.pampelmoose.com/2008/01/emi-new-gang-of-four-album-radiohead-london-media-punditry/comment-page-1#comment-52326 Joe Wallace Fri, 18 Jan 2008 12:43:50 +0000 http://www.pampelmoose.com/mspeaks/?p=1251#comment-52326 Roy Christopher says what I've been saying for quite some time now--we are back to SINGLES thanks to mp3. My burning question--with all the MP3 blogs out there, could any artist make a viable living selling nothing BUT singles? Could we go back to the days of the Quarrymen here, albeit in a digital format? Maybe the Quarrymen ain't the best example, perhaps Elvis Costello and Stiff is more appropos. Dave, you were there, (for Elvis, I mean, not the Quarries) ...any perspective? A Gang of Four/Elvis Costello mashup--now THERE'S a challenge. "I Don't Wanna Go To Anthrax" Roy Christopher says what I’ve been saying for quite some time now–we are back to SINGLES thanks to mp3. My burning question–with all the MP3 blogs out there, could any artist make a viable living selling nothing BUT singles? Could we go back to the days of the Quarrymen here, albeit in a digital format?

Maybe the Quarrymen ain’t the best example, perhaps Elvis Costello and Stiff is more appropos. Dave, you were there, (for Elvis, I mean, not the Quarries) …any perspective?

A Gang of Four/Elvis Costello mashup–now THERE’S a challenge. “I Don’t Wanna Go To Anthrax”

]]> By: izm http://www.pampelmoose.com/2008/01/emi-new-gang-of-four-album-radiohead-london-media-punditry/comment-page-1#comment-52298 izm Fri, 18 Jan 2008 10:23:03 +0000 http://www.pampelmoose.com/mspeaks/?p=1251#comment-52298 Jump the Shark!! Jump the Shark!!

]]> By: John Henley http://www.pampelmoose.com/2008/01/emi-new-gang-of-four-album-radiohead-london-media-punditry/comment-page-1#comment-52270 John Henley Fri, 18 Jan 2008 05:09:25 +0000 http://www.pampelmoose.com/mspeaks/?p=1251#comment-52270 CDs, Mp3s, SA, downloads, storage - secondary concerns at best to me. I remember in the early 1970's jamming a matchbook between an 8-track cassette and the player just to get the tape rolling again. It never diminished my interest in the music. Dave says Gang of Four are kicking up a storm. They sound like they're having a great time. That's what matters. I can't wait for spring. CDs, Mp3s, SA, downloads, storage – secondary concerns at best to me. I remember in the early 1970’s jamming a matchbook between an 8-track cassette and the player just to get the tape rolling again. It never diminished my interest in the music.

Dave says Gang of Four are kicking up a storm. They sound like they’re having a great time. That’s what matters.

I can’t wait for spring.

]]> By: Dave Allen http://www.pampelmoose.com/2008/01/emi-new-gang-of-four-album-radiohead-london-media-punditry/comment-page-1#comment-52269 Dave Allen Fri, 18 Jan 2008 04:56:34 +0000 http://www.pampelmoose.com/mspeaks/?p=1251#comment-52269 @Bryan V There's 2 things here - 1 would be 'cloud computing' and that's where the MacBook Air comes in, nothing much would need to be stored on the computer, access to your data is via the internet. And 2 local large storage - again Mac comes through with the Time Capsule (terrible name!) http://www.apple.com/timecapsule/ it's a 500gb or 1 terrabyte back up device that's also a wireless device for your network so that anyone on the network can back up to it. I think external storage via Apple or Google would eventually raise privacy issues especially if third parties subpoena the companies for access to your data... @Bryan V

There’s 2 things here – 1 would be ‘cloud computing’ and that’s where the MacBook Air comes in, nothing much would need to be stored on the computer, access to your data is via the internet. And 2 local large storage – again Mac comes through with the Time Capsule (terrible name!) http://www.apple.com/timecapsule/ it’s a 500gb or 1 terrabyte back up device that’s also a wireless device for your network so that anyone on the network can back up to it. I think external storage via Apple or Google would eventually raise privacy issues especially if third parties subpoena the companies for access to your data…

]]> By: Roy Christopher http://www.pampelmoose.com/2008/01/emi-new-gang-of-four-album-radiohead-london-media-punditry/comment-page-1#comment-52245 Roy Christopher Thu, 17 Jan 2008 22:08:39 +0000 http://www.pampelmoose.com/mspeaks/?p=1251#comment-52245 Go Dave! I finally <a href="http://roychristopher.com/the-disintegration-of-the-compact-disc" rel="nofollow">posted a bit about this</a> on <a href="http://roychristopher.com" rel="nofollow">my site. The whole thing (i.e., how the decline of the CD is affecting <i>everything</i>) is getting more and more interesting.</a> Go Dave! I finally posted a bit about this on my site. The whole thing (i.e., how the decline of the CD is affecting everything) is getting more and more interesting.

]]> By: bryanv http://www.pampelmoose.com/2008/01/emi-new-gang-of-four-album-radiohead-london-media-punditry/comment-page-1#comment-52228 bryanv Thu, 17 Jan 2008 15:59:26 +0000 http://www.pampelmoose.com/mspeaks/?p=1251#comment-52228 What about Storage? So we have this digitized world that continues to grow exponentially. The Apples of the world realize this and are temporarily quelling our fear and capitalizing on the “where do I put my growing digitized library of information", well, with huge storage drives, of course. One question I have is, "at what point does the centralization of digitized information begin". Google is attempting to centralize our day to day communication applications such as email, word and financial applications, pictures....what’s next; I think it will be music. Why can’t we own CD quality songs in perpetuity, why can’t they be purchased once and accessed a million times without a fear of it breaking or being lost? As we create easier and more creative ways to listen to the music, the world’s music becomes more and more disorganized. Can the consumer handle their music, not only in an intangible form, but in one form (copy) for millions to access, at any time, for eternity? What about Storage? So we have this digitized world that continues to grow exponentially. The Apples of the world realize this and are temporarily quelling our fear and capitalizing on the “where do I put my growing digitized library of information”, well, with huge storage drives, of course. One question I have is, “at what point does the centralization of digitized information begin”. Google is attempting to centralize our day to day communication applications such as email, word and financial applications, pictures….what’s next; I think it will be music. Why can’t we own CD quality songs in perpetuity, why can’t they be purchased once and accessed a million times without a fear of it breaking or being lost? As we create easier and more creative ways to listen to the music, the world’s music becomes more and more disorganized. Can the consumer handle their music, not only in an intangible form, but in one form (copy) for millions to access, at any time, for eternity?

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